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12. Navigating Tech Evolution: Past Stories & Now
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In this episode, we explore the interesting experience of growing up as Millennials, witnessing the shift from a tech-free childhood to a world where everything is accessible through smartphones. We'll reminisce about the days of rushing to answer house phones without caller ID, the freedom of leaving home without being reachable, and doing long hours of traveling without an electronic device. Listen in as we reflect on how life has changed, comparing our unplugged upbringing to the hyper-connected reality our kids face today.
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Evolution of Technology and Communication
Speaker 1I gotta get you out of my system. I gotta get you off of my mind. But how do I move on when no one compares? They only keep me occupied. I try to shake them off so desperately but you pull them tighter, string me along. It's sad, but I'm so gone.
Speaker 2And how do you do it Live with yourself? Do you guys remember when we started having emails and internet, or when we started using them?
Speaker 3I don't remember email, but but yes, when we first started doing internet research at school, I remember how big and bulky the computer screens were, the monitors, no images. Do you remember that? Um, no, and school media center was the first time I at least that's when I remember you used internet then, but it was all green writing, and then the monitors were like, so bulky you know, it was protruding from the wall, basically Like it was just. And then I didn't know what I was doing, though, like I didn't know how to do the research. Very well, I would type things, but I'm like I don't know how to utilize this thing.
Speaker 3I remember thinking that because that was something we could use to do research, but I didn't feel that it was very effective because I don't. Maybe I wasn't doing it right, but it was like lame. So I would actually use an actual book instead, where I could see images and understand it better, where I could see images and understand it better. That was, I want to say. Maybe middle school is when I first started using it at the library, school, library or high school. What about you guys? You remember?
Speaker 2Well, I had email address when I entered the university. That was the first time I know we had access at home. You know those dial-ups, but I was not interested or I wasn't informed, or I'm not sure exactly. It was something that was new to me. Right, I finally had an email address. The first email address I had was definitely at the university.
Speaker 3Ohio State. Really I wonder if that was my first one, maybe. I mean I feel like internet, I mean email, but you're two years younger, so I'm not sure if that's the time.
Speaker 2That's when the AOL messenger came out.
Speaker 3Yes, messenger was easy to use.
Speaker 2Maybe it didn't come out then, but maybe it came out before that, but that's when I first used it. That was like the exposure that I had before that was the first time before texting for us.
Speaker 3Yeah, messenger was huge.
Speaker 2Yeah, at least in college yeah, it was the aol instant messenger.
Speaker 3Yes, that's how we would get a hold of our friends. For the most part, we had to dial up. We sound so vintage so you don't remember your first internet experience well, I remember you well.
Speaker 4No, not the internet experience no I just remember using the computer for typing up essays, but not to research things because you know I go to the library and you know, just check out a book to research. I don't, I don't really.
Speaker 2Yeah, so we're a generation that encountered smart devices in the early adulthood and you know we'll just check out a book to research. I don't, I don't really remember.
Changing Technology and Communication Trends
Speaker 3So we're a generation that encountered smart devices in the early adulthood. Oh, now that you mentioned Samia, I wonder. For me in middle school what I was doing in the media center was actually not re internet research, maybe I was.
Speaker 2It was just like books to do research that it was showing me or something you were probably pulling books. Yeah, maybe it was showing me or something, you were probably pulling books yeah, maybe it was like library category or something I don't know.
Speaker 3I just remember it being very confusing it was.
Speaker 2It was all green and you know I was like I don't really know how to use yeah, all green, like the matrix movie, you know do you guys remember when you had your first cell phone?
Speaker 3yeah, college. I was late in the game, though everyone else had it yeah, samia, I got one.
Speaker 4I got mine in high school when um we came back to japan because everyone had, it so kawasan got me one, yeah and it was not a smartphone nope, it was a flip phone for Nope, it was a flip phone for me. Was it even a?
Speaker 3flip phone. Mine was a flip phone, okay.
Speaker 2Mine was a flip phone. Wasn't there a generation before that? That wasn't a flip phone, it's just a tiny little screen that you see?
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, yeah, I didn't have that though.
Speaker 2And you could like actually message just a little bit, but not. Was there a limit? Not to, but not. Was there a limit? Not the extent that you do these days. Yeah, I think you could also send an image, but it was just very blurry, very tiny I mean, what generation are we talking?
Speaker 3I don't know if you could send images on that, on that like um non-flip phone, like the first cell phone. I don't think you could send images on that, but I, I don know, I think, I don't think you could take pictures on it, I don't know how. Yeah, possibly.
Speaker 3Even my flip phone. I mean, could you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could, I could. My first cell phone was a flip phone, but again I was late in the game so I could take pictures on it. I don't know if I could send pictures, but there was no color, I don't think it just lit up. The screen lit up blue when I would open it, but like I couldn't change you know font colors or can you change?
Speaker 2I mean, I don't do like there's no emoji or anything.
Speaker 3I don't think you had to do like you know, Colin, and then parentheses for smiley face.
Speaker 2So that was such a big deal right, because I mean going from going from you know, sharing a household phone, where we used to like run to grab the phone, to having your own portable phone that you can take anywhere. I also got it in college. That was the time when everybody started having cell phones. So the entire childhood of ours we did not grow up with it. So I'm curious, do you miss that life at all? Because sometimes I think, oh my god, I kind of miss having to like run and not knowing who was calling. We, our family, here in germany, we don't have a house phone.
Speaker 3I don't personally miss it for me at this age, but I do for my kids. I wish that they experienced what we experienced, you know, not having to be relying on your phone to see who messaged you or you know, that kind of stuff. Obviously, we were fine back then and I missed that for them. For me, I don't have my phone on me ever, so it's like I don't have. I'm like a cave woman. I wear my Apple watch and I still miss everything. So, yeah, it's almost like I'm living without my device.
Speaker 3I miss everything all the time. But I mean obviously not. I'm not not missing everything, but I do miss it for the kids, for our kids, don't you? Don't you wish that they could just live without it for even a week?
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, true, but I think my son is usually not on his phone very much, so he's kind of like you, I guess. Perhaps he doesn't really care for messages or social media.
Speaker 3Right, he's on gaming, yeah, he's on the.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's on the computer, it's not on the phone yeah and yeah, when he wants to use his phone he's usually doing duolingo or doing games, but he's not one of those kids that have to constantly have his phone around. Remember, we used to not have the caller id either on the house phone, so we had no idea who was calling. That's.
Speaker 4That came later, yeah so sometimes, so sometimes, okasan's friends would call and you know they were japanese and we would answer the phone by saying hello.
Speaker 2In Ohio.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, and sometimes if it's, you know, my mom's mom, my mom's friend, they'd be like, oh my goodness, maybe I dialed the wrong number, because this person's saying hello instead of moshi moshi, which is like the Japanese way of saying hello when you pick up the phone. So you know, some people would just hang up or stay silent. And this one time, um, I picked up the phone, I was like hello, it was silence and I was like I told, I told tomomi, I was like okay, so no one's saying anything. And tomomi's like say baka. You know, baka means stupid in japanese. So I was like baka and I hung up and after a couple of minutes the phone rang again.
Speaker 4Wait, I think I picked it up, maybe, oh man, I said hello and then she was like um in Japanese. She was like um, is this, uh, the owner's residence? And I said yes, and she was like oh, um, is your mom there? I'm like okay, and I, you know, handed the phone to her and then it must have been her, you know, the first time oh geez awkward.
Speaker 2Only was really making you do things.
Speaker 3Yeah, she was all the things that I had to do.
Speaker 2It was all for my entertainment always if one of us would pick up a phone, then sometimes others would pick up to try to listen in I don't think I did that, did I?
Speaker 4I've done that. I don't know or maybe.
Speaker 3Well, a lot of times I would want to use a phone and I would pick up and be like, can you get off the phone? Like I remember doing that, like I didn't know you were on it yeah, like you've been on it for so long we had.
Speaker 2We had two house phones, yeah, and so we ran to it a lot of times and we had call waiting, didn't we?
Speaker 3What is that again? It's like when someone else is calling us that you can hear the beep. Oh, that's right I remember I used to ignore it because I'm like well, I'm already talking to somebody I want to talk to, so it's obviously not for me, I'm just going to ignore it.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it was kind of annoying. I think it became annoying when you want.
Speaker 3Well, I take away phone from you, know, Kekle, sometimes if you know if we're just trying to discipline her for whatever reason, and I've taken away like a week at a time multiple times and it's hard for her because it's everyone else has it, so she's missing out on what's going on with her friends I feel that if they were all also um deviceless for like a week, then it's I think it's tolerable.
Speaker 3She has bad fomo, you know, like you, so, so she doesn't want to miss out on anything. Yeah, so that's hard. So, like, I think. I feel like if we could take away all device from all everyone in this generation, they would be okay, but it's just that everyone else is going on with their social life with the cell phone I feel like we're so reliant on it that if I lose my phone today, like if I lose it right now, I would not feel right.
Speaker 2I mean, everything is on there, right? I don't even know. I should know my husband's phone number, but I don't like I don't know, you don't know his phone number. No, I need to memorize. I should do that you do.
Speaker 3The only reason why I know matt's is because ours is very similar.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know my son's phone number.
Speaker 3I mean yeah remember we had to have a friend's phone numbers memorized back in a day um I still remember angie's phone number.
Speaker 2We had to memorize like 10, 12, 20 phone numbers. I don't know how we did that, honestly, right yeah we had to memorize all those numbers. We did it somehow.
Speaker 3Yeah, we don't do that anymore we remember like we would write letters in school and hand them out like fold them all like fun. There was a trendy way to fold it yeah one week and then the next week. There'd be another way I used to exchange letters oh, you mean exchanging letters instead?
Speaker 2oh yeah, yeah, this was before the phone, yeah, yeah that's true, and then one of my close friends.
Speaker 3We would have a notebook that we would like a share a composition book? Yeah, yeah, so then I would write in it and then she would write in it, and we would just switch back and forth.
Speaker 4I know, I mean, I wish I had that still, still.
Speaker 2I'd love to look back on it. I should tell Kiko to start it.
Speaker 3I'm going to do that. Oh wait, maybe that's not a good idea, Because someone could get a hold of it. And then you know, Middle school kids are mean.
Speaker 2But parents also rely on some kids to have it so they can locate the kids, for example.
Speaker 3Yeah, me with Emikoiko. Yeah, and she's only in fourth grade, but you know it's so nice that she has it now.
Speaker 2It's so crazy, I mean yeah, and for us when we were growing up, our parents didn't know where we were a lot of times no that was accepted pretty much like bye and you leave the house and you not come back until dinner time.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I don't even know if they asked us where we were.
Speaker 3No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so I think we had to be like we didn't have watches on either. Well, you know, in Japan.
Speaker 4You know, there's a certain song that comes out when it's like getting dark.
Speaker 2That's right. It's to tell kiss to go home. Yeah, that must be it, but I feel like we didn't have that when we were younger like in the 80s really.
Speaker 3I just know about the.
Speaker 2I don't remember the song the nude bell oh, there was. There has to be some signal. I don't think there was a song, though, really oh, like amusement parks, you know how they play.
Speaker 3That. Is that what the kind of song you're talking about? Remember when you, when I visited you and we went to the park- yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. Is that the song Mm-hmm? I thought that was just for the amusement park.
Speaker 4But they play it elsewhere. It's different per region, but it's usually that song that they play at that amusement park.
Speaker 2If it was a song I would definitely remember.
Speaker 4I don't think it was a song I guess they didn't have it back then probably in the 80s, probably not so how do we like know when to go home because we didn't have watches?
Speaker 3that's what we're asking around like hey, what time is it?
Speaker 2or maybe once they got darker we were like, oh, it's getting darker, let's go home, yeah, yeah, I mean, if we were at our friend's house, I used to remember to, you know, check the clock and such at their house.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, I wonder how that was. We should. We should ask our parents like how, what did you tell us? Like what time do we have to be home? Or like how do we know when to come back?
Speaker 2or I honestly don't know if they cared as much they did because we ate dinner we ate dinner same time every night together, so we were definitely back before that yeah
Struggles With Online Education Implementation
Speaker 3but I mean, I remember okasan always saying yeah, we must have somehow communicated with each other that we were going to this place, this place, because there were times where I had to come and get you at a park or something so okay, maybe you and something I do remember okasa saying, though, like that she didn't have to get on us that much, that we were pretty, you know, responsible yeah because she, when she saw like keiko and emiko, she was just kind of like, wow, like I can't believe you have to be on top of them so much like you girls were, not, I didn't have to be so on top of you guys yeah, because she pressured me to be on top of you guys well, I mean, we didn't always hang out.
Speaker 3You know, I used to ride my bike to my friend's house all the time. Yeah, yeah, but I think she had somebody else also.
Speaker 2She emphasized that I should be responsible.
Speaker 3I mean, we didn't always hang out. You know, I used to ride my bike to my friend's house all the time.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I think she had somebody else also. She emphasized that I should be responsible. Yeah, I'm sure, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, Like Cody, if you don't round up the kids, you're not eating dinner tonight. That never happened?
Speaker 2Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Even at school, too, I remember going to the library doing research, like because you know there was no internet that we couldn't just like log on and now simple things.
Speaker 3I don't know about elementary kids in Japan and Germany now, but definitely where we live, um, they are having to do homework and tests, online tests and tests too, and it's so hard. I've seen the layout of these tests where you have to scroll up and down. Half of the screen is the reading page, the other half is to answer, and then you have to scroll, you have to enlarge, you have to.
Speaker 3You know it's oh yeah, that's difficult it's so hard and the reading teachers are complaining, saying you know, we've taught the kids reading strategies like how to highlight, underline, circle certain keywords, you know when you're reading so you can absorb what you're reading, or you know just to get the central idea for each paragraph, and they are not able to do that on the computer, so it makes it more difficult for kids, I think, to have to be all online based. Is it like that? And you said in Germany it's not, it's still paper based if it's a test.
Speaker 2It's paper based yeah, but Germany has realized during COVID times that digitalization was behind because a lot of schools struggled with it. Yeah, and I think it's great on one hand. If it's helpful, right, obviously. But when it becomes too difficult to use, then it's like what's the point of doing it online?
Speaker 3like kids, have to write essays and type it up like even if it's a test, you know and that's I don't know.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Especially if kids are struggling to write on paper.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 3They're definitely going to struggle to type it up, I feel.
Speaker 2But OK, so if they type, they type it in Word or something, no, the recent one they had.
Speaker 3it was not Word either, it was just this box OK.
Speaker 2So you have to spell things correctly.
Speaker 3It's not going. No, no, no, it's not gonna auto correct or anything but um, I believe I don't know if it underlines, because I I didn't look really into that, into it, but I know they recently had this big writing test that they had to do online. They had to read a passage on half of the screen okay, again scrolling up and down to read all this passage. They were given a planning sheet to write on paper, just the planning sheet, and then they had to type it up in this box yeah so it was not even doc or anything
Speaker 2but, so why do you think they're pushing so much for? This it's becoming more online based, computer based everything yeah, if you think that kids are maybe struggling to use it, why, I wonder? Because that's not the, that's not a priority, right? It's a priority for kids to learn, not about how to use these tools.
Generational Differences in Technology Use
Speaker 3I'm wondering why that's being pushed so I mean the teachers don't really have a say. You know, it's like that's what the district wants. If that's what they want, they have to push it.
Speaker 2Our son's school. He goes to a private school. He does have his own iPad that he uses as textbooks and they do like some fun activities on it at school, but it's not used for tests for homework sometimes.
Speaker 3So it's when they're doing their work they write on paper.
Speaker 2He brings back and forth the iPad home, yeah, but also depends too on the classes. Like some class like he's taking biology class, it's a bilingual biology class and that's all digital, but all the other classes seem to be most of them anyway seems to be actual textbooks yeah.
Speaker 3What about simi? Do you know about kids in japan, elementary level even, or middle school? I don't have kids.
Speaker 4So I don't know. All I know. Is that sure, yeah, yeah, I I all. I do know that they use tablets in elementary schools now oh, oh, okay.
Speaker 2So they do? Do you think that's only in the cities, like big cities Like I can't see our hometown using tablets?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I don't think these kids were coming home with tablets at all or computers. But you know what I feel like they're starting to introduce it a little bit. I want to say yes, they were like they're starting to introduce it a little bit. I want to say yes, they were, because when I went this summer to Japan and the kids and I went to school our school that we attended as kids to, you know, just have fun English game day when I took the kids and did it with them, with some students after school, they had computers and I said, what are you guys doing? And they were like, oh, we're just doing some practice, math or practice this practice that they had their computers. I remember that. Now I don't know much detail about it. I don't know if they take it home, if it stays at school, if they do assignments or tests. I don't know about that. If they do assignments or tests, I don't know about that, but they did have it.
Speaker 2Each of them. I also wonder, like how we took trips like family trips without any devices.
Speaker 3You know how we did it. You know Oto-san was all about map highlighting.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Everything, printing everything.
Speaker 2When we had to do like eight hour drive, you know like, how did we occupy ourselves for that long?
Speaker 4Do you remember it just sang songs. Right, we sang songs.
Speaker 2We played games. We like prepare, like, like cds. He did prepare. He was good man, you're right that is a long time without exactly I mean we had each other.
Speaker 3what the hell yeah, yeah Singing the whole time. That would drive me.
Speaker 4I don't know about the whole time, but I just I just have this image, you know from our child.
Speaker 2Yeah Of us singing.
Speaker 1Maybe we're yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4Specific image we were singing the Lion King Hakuna.
Speaker 2Matata, ok, so then we sing a lot. We also play games. Hakuna Matata Okay, so then we sang a lot, we also played games.
Speaker 3Like what kind of games do we play?
Speaker 2Because we're in a car. I think we did like license play games. Right, that is not a game.
Speaker 3License play games. Who can?
Speaker 2memorize. No, no, no, Like spotting a license plate added up or something. Who?
Speaker 1does that?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 3I'm very sure we did something like that.
Speaker 2I don't remember doing that.
Speaker 1Maybe not.
Speaker 2I did it when I was a kid, when I was still living in Japan. This was like pre-teens. I used to like run around the neighborhood and just add up the license plate. That's hilarious.
Speaker 3Simi, did we have dolls? No, huh, maybe we had, we had dolls.
Speaker 2oh yeah, we took dolls and maybe yeah but it makes you wonder, right, like how did we occupy ourselves?
Speaker 3we didn't have phones, we didn't have tablets, we didn't have anything so when we were, when we got a little bit older, I remember otosan saying who's the lucky person that's gonna navigate in the passenger seat with this map?
Speaker 3oh, my gosh, and I was like not me, no thank you I don't think any of us were excited, but I remember he made us take turns and sit in the passenger seat and look at the map and I'm not gonna lie, I was like I don't know what I'm looking at and I don't know and he used to tell me, like tell me where I'm going. I'm like I have actually no idea. I don't really know how to read this map, but then like he would teach me. I remember and I don't know if I learned at that age still, but yeah, but we had to.
Speaker 2That was part of education on how to read map I was part of it.
Speaker 4It was either you didn't. Yeah, it was just always both either of you guys. Oh my gosh, I mean when I started driving.
Speaker 2It was not, it was all maps, like I had to know where I was, was going. Looked at the map and figured out how to get there?
Speaker 3I mean, I know how to read the map now, obviously, but I don't know if I actually got it. You know, when we were on our family vacation in the passenger seat I must have been in middle school or I don't know we did a lot of prep work.
Speaker 1Right like looking at the maps yeah, but just back then.
Speaker 2Yeah, like a lot of prep for going on a trip.
Speaker 3Nowadays you just type in the yeah, he did a lot of printing, remember, because he had to right, because he had to print everything out uh, hotel information, phone numbers. You know he was very organized in that way like he printed everything and laminated some maps. You know what I love to laminate now as a mom. So I get it, but my kids get everything wet and dirty and rip, so I think lamination is must be illegal here.
Speaker 2Illegal what I don't know, I'm just saying it's a long way from schooling. It's wasteful, it's not sustainable. You don't see elimination done so when we travel these days, you let the kids have the devices at a certain point, right.
Speaker 3Well, sometimes you know I want peace in the car and a device is a great way. I'm not going to lie, I mean they drive me crazy sometimes you know, you experienced firsthand.
Speaker 3Yeah, oh my gosh, they, they. I keep getting loud environment notification on my watch because you should hear them sing all the time as soon as they get home. They're really into hitting high pitch lately and it's so loud. They do it over and over and over and over and they, they're not, first of all, not hitting the pitch and, second of all, they just keep doing it over and over and over because they're not doing it right oh, I'm just like oh my god but I'm sure we were kind of like that too, considering there were three of us.
Speaker 4Yeah, but I I bet you guys don't remember that you, you guys didn't let me sing like certain parts of the song because that's how you guys don't remember that you, you guys, didn't let me sing like certain parts of the song because that's how you guys treated me.
Speaker 2Oh man, you poor thing like what do you mean?
Speaker 3like such as what? Like high parts?
Speaker 4you know the parts that you know it's fun to yeah, the main part allowed to sing like I wasn't allowed to participate. Oh god, no.
Speaker 2I don't remember that if we went back now like without any phones, right? Do you think that kids are gonna have withdrawals? Do you think we'll have withdrawals?
Speaker 3I guess a lot of people work these days online well again, I think if everyone in the world was deviceless, we were all on the same page. I think it's manageable.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's what I thought too, because everyone has to figure it out.
Speaker 3We're all on the same page with okay, I need to get ahold of this person, but they can't get ahold of me either. So we'll figure it out, kind of thing. But if it's just us, obviously we're going to struggle. People are going to be like I emailed you, I texted you, I called you, Like what's going on. Why are you not responding?
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way. If, like, no one had their phones, then I'd be okay with it.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know, I have to say, the kids are not as creative, for sure, when you take your devices away and tell them okay, go play, do free play. Okay, go play, do free play. They're not very they're, they're not very creative with their imagination, like I know that at school anyway, when I'm there, um, if they play outside a lot of times, first of all they complain and I'm like okay, it's recess, you want to play outside?
Speaker 1No, I want to be on the computer inside.
Speaker 3I want indoor recess. What, no, like you got to get it out, you know, out of you. And then when they go outside, if there's no playground, if they're assigned in an area to play where there's no playground, they don't know what to do with themselves. There's nothing to do.
Speaker 2Do you think because they're used to rely on the?
Speaker 3computer? Yes, I think so, and then I've showed them. Oh, you can do like long jumps, you know we can mark it and see who can you know jump from here the longest, and you know they all would get into it, or you know. It's just crazy, though, that they can't think of these things at all yeah at all because that's all we did that's all.
Childhood Games and Memories
Speaker 3Yeah, that's what we did when we were growing up, do you guys? Remember when, when it was fun and they were kids, we literally played on the road, like in front of our house with our neighbors. Yeah wait, who, simi? Were you just saying recently that we would draw like with water, or what did you say something about?
Speaker 4okay. So there were a lot of things that we played which apparently you two don't remember. Kick the can game you know where one person would oh yeah, yeah, you said protect the can that's a fun, and the kids will go and hide well, tomo, maybe you can.
Speaker 2You can let the girls um play the games you used to play.
Speaker 3See if it's fun yeah, you gotta explain it.
Speaker 2So then one person would be in charge of protecting the can and everyone else was this to hide and I remember this, yeah, and then somebody had to come out and kick it before they got caught, you get tagged okay yeah, I remember that game there were a lot of games that we played on the road, and I think we made them up too thanks for joining us today.
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